Don't Start Nothing Won't Be Nothing
Sunday, November 21, 2010 at 8:13PM
Richard Terrell (KirbyKid)

Interesting conversations on video games is not easy to come by. It seems to me that the entire video game "corner" of the internet is a chatter box of comments, yet not much is being said overall. The NeoGaf forums is one place I've been reading for years for an endless source of interesting topics/conversations. Though I've written on the inadequacies of  the linear presentation of a multi user conversations, this post isn't about the organization of information. Rather, this post is about what may be the prime reason why threads derail or fail to develop substance. I'm talking about OPs. 

The OP (original post) is the start of a conversation. It sets the direction for what and how people will contribute. The larger a thread become the less likely a reader will read every post. Regardless, in my experience, most readers will take the time to read the OP if nothing else. 

Most hiccups in discussions stem from language issues. If the OP doesn't state necessary terms clearly up front, the thread will typically move into as many divergent directions as there are interpretations of the terms(s). Or the thread will struggle trying to focus the discussion on a single interpretation. Instead of discussing the issues, such threads get derailed debating definitions. Personally, I love getting down to the nitty gritty of  language including tracing the evolution of terms and deriving/defining terms. However, when a discussion on language isn't the purpose of a thread, even a constructive debate can derail everything. 

For this reason, it's imperative that the OP defines all gaming terms. If one needs to refer to a dictionary the Critical-Glossary should be the ideal source. Otherwise, make up definitions as you go along. Being on the same page language wise is more important than stressing over having the "correct" definition (if there is such a thing). In other words, clarity is king. 

But we can do better than just present a dictionary of terms. It would very constructive for the OP to outline the best way for others to contribute to the discussion. Though far from 100% effective, a suggestion does go a long way to encourage posters to play along. 


Let's look at this NeoGaf thread for example: Franchise that defines this generation?

This is a great idea for a thread, but the topic is too big to leave the template for response with "thoughts?" What's worse than not being able to find others to discuss a topic of interest, is to start a conversation and watch it fall. Not only do most the first 50 posts suggest the same set of games, but the responses are just lists of game titles. Furthermore, DaBuddaDa brings up this point:



This thread needed to start with a clear template. Instead of encouraging posters to fail at wrapping their heads around thinking about the entire generation of gaming thus far, weighing trends, and predicting what qualities/features/innovations will be most important going into the next generation, it would have been better if the OP focused the discussion on specifics. We can't be experts on all games, but surely we can be experts at our favorite game(s). You know, the ones we may spend hundreds of hours with every hear. So perhaps the OP should have looked like this:


Games that define this generation. 

Question: What game exemplifies a unique feature or growing trend of this generation?

Here's a list of trends. Pick one, pick a game, explain, and repeat as necessary. Feel free to come up with your own examples of additional trends. 


With an OP like this, if there is one game that defines the generation, it should come up in many of these categories. Also, based on the games and tends posters submit, we can better gauge the range of games NeoGaf users have experience with. To me, there's no point faking a conversation on a topic that's too big for anyone to tackle. Keeping things focused on individual games and specific examples will yield more fruitful conversations. I hope you now see the importance of a good OP. As the history shows, if the OP doesn't start a quality conversation with a solid foundation, it's likely that there won't be one. 

If you feel inclined to submit to my revised OP feel free to do so via twitter or leave a comment. Limiting responses to about 140 characters or should give you just enough room to compose one cogent comment per trend. 

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